New State Girls BB Divisional Rankings

California high school girls basketball state championships

Brookside Christian head coach Que Ngo shows off trophy after his 2012 team won CIF Northern California Division V regional title. The Knights won in the state final the following week. Photo: Paul Muyskens.

Unlike the boys, there were no major upsets in Tuesday playoff games this week. There wasn’t even a single team from last week’s rankings in any division, in fact, that lost and dropped out from this week’s rankings.

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By Mark Tennis
Contributing: Harold Abend, Paul Muyskens

There should be some top matchups in CIF sectional playoff games by the end of this week but until then the state’s best girls basketball teams – for all five divisions combined – are going to be almost universally in cruise control.

The top-ranked teams by division heading into Wednesday’s games of this were Mater Dei (D1), Carondelet (D2), Bishop O’Dowd of Oakland (D3), Windward of Los Angeles (D4) and Brookside Christian of Stockton (D5).

All teams have been ranked by Cal-Hi Sports according to their CIF divisions, but some will obviously be pulled up into the new CIF Open Division for the Northern California and Southern California regional playoffs. We have indicated which teams in which divisions are eligible for the Open Division so readers can then visualize which non-Open Division teams may end up battling it out for the various CIF divisional state titles.

Of the top-ranked teams this week, Mater Dei, Carondelet, Bishop O’Dowd and Windward all look like they’ll be in the open division.

Teams throughout the state also can petition the CIF to be considered for the open division once they have qualified for the regional playoffs. This likely isn’t going to happen, though, for any team that is outside top 10 overall in the state.

(After results of Saturday, Feb. 16 with some scores from early this week indicated)

DIVISION I
1. (1) Mater Dei (Santa Ana) 26-0
2. (2) St. Mary’s (Stockton) 25-2
3. (3) Santiago (Corona) 25-2
4. (4) Troy (Fullerton) 24-3
5. (5) Long Beach Poly (Long Beach) 23-4
6. (6) Etiwanda 25-2
7. (7) Millikan (Long Beach) 25-3
8. (8) Rancho Verde (Moreno Valley) 24-2
9. (9) Hanford 22-4
10. (10) Heritage (Brentwood) 22-4
11. (11) Centennial (Corona) 22-4
12. (12) Oak Ridge (El Dorado Hills) 23-3*
13. (13) Vista Murrieta (Murrieta) 23-5
14. (14) Wilcox (Santa Clara) 22-2
15. (15) Canyon Springs (Moreno Valley) 16-9
Dropped Out: None.
Eligible for Open Division: Mater Dei, Stockton St. Mary’s, Long Beach Poly, Berkeley, Brea Olinda, Hanford, Sacramento Kennedy, Harbor City Narbonne.
Teams on the Bubble: A.B. Miller (Fontana) 22-4, Berkeley 16-10, Bishop Amat (La Puente) 20-8, Clovis West (Fresno) 20-5, Deer Valley (Antioch) 16-9, Granite Hills (El Cajon) 21-6, Great Oak (Temecula) 18-7, Kennedy (Sacramento) 21-5, McClymonds (Oakland) 22-3, Narbonne (Harbor City) 20-8, Stockdale (Bakersfield) 22-4.
Notes & Highlights: It was almost sad to see Brea Olinda of Brea getting knocked out early in this year’s CIFSS Division I-AA playoffs by Great Oak of Temecula. In recent seasons, even last year, the Ladycats have been among the state and the nation’s top-ranked squads. Great Oak advanced to a Wednesday matchup this week against Long Beach Poly. Probable quarterfinal matchups in the division include the Jackrabbits against Etiwanda, Santiago vs. Millikan, Troy vs. Rancho Verde and Mater Dei vs. Corona Centennial.

DIVISION II
1. (1) Carondelet (Concord) 23-3
2. (2) Archbishop Mitty (San Jose) 21-6
3. (3) Ridgeview (Bakersfield) 22-3
4. (4) Cajon (San Bernardino) 26-0
5. (5) Lynwood 19-5
6. (6) Sacramento 23-4
7. (7) Mark Keppel (Alhambra) 24-4
8. (8) J.W. North (Riverside) 18-5
9. (9) Woodbridge (Irvine) 25-3
10. (10) Canyon (Canyon Country) 23-4
Dropped Out: None.
Eligible for Open Division: Archbishop Mitty, Carondelet, Lynwood, Sacramento.
Teams on the Bubble: Bonita (La Verne) 23-5, Clayton Valley (Concord) 20-6, Garces (Bakersfield) 25-2, Gregori (Modesto) 24-1, Lynbrook (San Jose) 19-4, Lutheran (Orange) 22-5, McNair (Stockton) 24-3, Murrieta Valley (Murrieta) 22-5, Patriot (Riverside) 24-3, Serra (San Diego) 21-6, St. Francis (Mountain View) 19-7.
Notes & Highlights: In addition to all 10 ranked teams winning all of its games last week, all of the bubble teams from last week were winners as well, with the lone exception being Mountain View St. Francis, although the Lancers’ loss was to Archbishop Mitty. Cajon of San Bernardino is expected to get to 27-0 on Wednesday night, but the Cowgirls could then get a test against either Mira Costa of Manhattan Beach or Bonita of La Verne. Those two teams also were scheduled to play on Wednesday.

DIVISION III
1. (1) Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland) 23-3
2. (2) Miramonte (Orinda) 25-1
3. (3) Chaminade (West Hills) 24-3
4. (4) Alemany (Mission Hills) 23-5
5. (5) Sacred Heart Cathedral (San Francisco) 20-5
6. (7) Campolindo (Moraga) 22-4
7. (8) Enterprise (Redding) 25-1
8. (9) Jurupa Valley 27-1
9. (6) St. Ignatius (San Francisco) 18-8
10. (10) Santa Barbara 22-7
Dropped Out: None.
Eligible for Open Division: Bishop O’Dowd, Sacred Heart Cathedral, Laguna Hills. Note: Miramonte also has been told by CIF North Coast Section officials that it also will be eligible for the open division in the north.
Teams on the Bubble: Agoura (Agoura Hills) 18-11, Burlingame 25-2, Christian Brothers (Sacramento) 20-7, El Dorado (Placentia) 24-4, Laguna Hills 21-7, Lakeside (Lake Elsinore) 24-4, Oak Park (Agoura Hills) 18-9, Patterson 23-2, Selma 28-1, Vanden (Travis AFB) 24-3.
Notes & Highlights: We had to go all the way to No. 6 in Division III before finding a team from last week’s rankings that lost and had to drop in this week’s rankings. That team was St. Ignatius of San Francisco. Even so, the Wildcats’ loss was to No. 5 Sacred Heart Cathedral so they only fell three spots. The only bubble team that lost and had its season end was Sonora of La Habra. It was a bad week for that school. Its boys team also was upset and dropped out of the Division III boys rankings.

DIVISION IV
1. (1) Windward (Los Angeles) 27-0
2. (2) St. Mary’s (Berkeley) 25-4
3. (3) Salesian (Richmond) 23-6
4. (4) JSerra (San Juan Capistrano) 22-6
5. (5) Serra (Gardena) 23-5
6. (6) Oaks Christian (Westlake Village) 21-6
7. (7) La Jolla Country Day (La Jolla) 14-11
8. (8) St. Bernard (Playa del Rey) 24-7
9. (9) Mater Dei Catholic (Chula Vista) 19-5
10. (10) Bradshaw Christian (Sacramento) 23-2
Dropped Out: None.
Eligible for Open Division: Windward, Berkeley St. Mary’s, La Jolla Country Day, Gardena Serra, Salesian.
Teams on the Bubble: Argonaut (Sutter Creek) 27-0, Bear River (Lake of the Pines) 23-3, Bishop Montgomery (Torrance) 22-7, Bishop’s (La Jolla) 17-11, Monte Vista Christian (Watsonville) 21-3, Piedmont 19-8, Ripon 22-4, Soquel 24-2, St. Anthony (Long Beach) 17-10, St. Paul (Santa Fe Springs) 17-11.
Notes & Highlights: Bubble team Argonaut improved to 28-0 with a win in Tuesday’s CIF Sac-Joaquin Section Division IV playoffs, which for one night anyway is better than even Mater Dei or Windward. The Mustangs haven’t played a tough schedule, which is why they aren’t ranked despite their record. The section playoff pairings were even more unkind as Argonaut was seeded only at No. 4, behind Bear River, Bradshaw Christian and Colfax. The best games in Wednesday’s CIFSS Division IV-AA quarterfinals were Serra of Gardena vs. St. Anthony of Long Beach and Oaks Christian vs. St. Bernard.

DIVISION V
1. (1) Brookside Christian (Stockton) 23-4
2. (2) Horizon (San Diego) 20-7
3. (3) Sierra Canyon (Chatsworth) 19-9
4. (4) Eastside College Prep (E. Palo Alto) 20-6
5. (5) Valley Christian (Dublin) 26-2
6. (6) Pinewood (Los Altos Hills) 20-6
7. (7) Mesa Grande Academy (Calimesa) 24-3
8. (8) Desert (Edwards) 21-1
9. (9) Ripon Christian (Ripon) 19-6
10. (10) Turlock Christian 23-4
Dropped Out: None.
Eligible for Open Division: Brookside Christian.
Teams on the Bubble: Animo South (Los Angeles) 23-5, Central Catholic (Modesto) 16-7, Flintridge Prep (La Canada) 18-7, International (San Francisco) 25-3, Providence (Burbank) 18-9, Urban (San Francisco) 21-6.
Notes & Highlights: For the third time this season, perennial power Pinewood lost last week to Eastside College Prep. This time, the score was 54-30. Often, the two usually meet a fourth time in the CIF Central Coast Section Division V championship. They may meet again in this year’s CCS playoffs, but both were placed into the new CCS open division. Pinewood plays Archbishop Mitty in one quarterfinal while Eastside is meeting St. Francis of Mountain View. No matter what happens both teams will be advanced by the CCS to the Northern California regional playoffs and would then likely be in the NorCal D5 bracket. Inserting any D5 team into either the NorCal or SoCal open division brackets (even if that team technically meets the criteria) would be ridiculous and if that were to happen would make whichever team wins the D5 state title an illegitimate champion.

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13 Comments

  1. T. S.
    Posted February 21, 2013 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    I’m looking for an answer to a question about A AA divisions. What determines whether a team plays in Div 1A or AA? I understand that the Divisions are based on school enrollment. Is that true? But please let me know what determines the A AA designation for a team. For instance, Upland and Arcadia played in Div 1 AA, but Canyon Springs played in 1A. The schools are all the same size public schools, but Canyon Springs has a greater record and more titles than the others. Mater Dei is AA, so it would seem winning record would move you higher. But that didn’t happen with Canyon Springs. How are these designations determined?

    • Posted February 21, 2013 at 11:47 am | Permalink

      Enrollment seems to determine it to some extent and then success over the years comes into play. Windward, for example, seems to have too low of an enrollment to be any higher than Division IV but then is D4AA instead of D4A based on program strength. To be honest, I’m not sure of some of the criteria the CIFSS uses for that, either.

  2. T. S.
    Posted February 21, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Here’s where I think something is foul:
    Bishop Amat (a catholic high school with only 1400 students is playing in Div 1A against:
    Burbank (a public school with 2800 students)
    Canyon Springs (a public school with 2500)
    Canyon (a public school with 2640 students)
    Vista Murietta (public- 3600 students)
    Trabuco Hills (public– 3400 students)

    But Alemany (a catholic high school with 1700 students #15 CA #61 nation) is playing in Div 3AA against:
    Calabassas (public with 2003 students– #1674 nation #142 CA)
    Carona Del Mar -public with 2182 students ranked #420th CA and #6023 Nationally)
    Tustin public school with 2249 students–league record of 1win 11 losses, ranked #489 state and #7259 in the nation–how did they get to playoffs?)

    And Mater Dei (#1 State/#1Nation — a Catholic High school powerhouse with 2100 students) is playing in Div 1AA against:
    Arcadia 3400 students (public school that never won anything #100 CA/ #1118 nation)
    Centennial 2910 students (public 20th in CA/#90 in nation)
    Valencia 3000 students (public #42 state/#328 nation)
    Millikan 4400 students (public #79nation/18th CA)
    Etiwanda 3242 students (public #16 nation/5th CA)
    Troy 2850 (public #30 nation/#10 CA)

    It seems to me these three Catholic schools should all be in the same division. They are much closer to each other than to most of their competitor schools.

    As it is, what we really have is a new division for every good Catholic school. In Southern Section alone, there are 12 divisions. A Catholic school is fitted into the top of each one–whether it fits there by enrollment or not. Where there is a better public or other private school, there is another division added for the catholic school. Thus the breakdown is:
    Div 1AA–Mater Dei (#1 Catholic powerhouse takes out a ton of other public schools that could win other divisions even though it’s enrollment is smaller than most of these schools)
    Div 1A– Bishop Amat (ditto–much smaller enrollment than it’s competitors–shd be in div with Mater Dei, Alemany and Chaminade)
    Div 2AA–Keppel (public)
    Div 2A–Orange (Luthern) so now what, no Catholic?… Now AAA all of a sudden:
    Div 3AAA- Gahr (Public) … and behold–two Catholic schools to make up for Div 2
    Div 3AA-Alemany (Catholic)
    Div 3A- Chaminade (Catholic)
    Div 4AA–Windward, Serra (Catholic), St. Bernard (Catholic)
    Div 4A–St. Paul (Catholic)
    Div 5AA– Providence (Catholic) ranked 468th in state but gets a bye for 1st round of playoffs
    Div 5A-Holy Martyrs (ranked 744th–about to win a Div. Championship-already at semi finals)
    Div 6–Valley Christian and other Christian and Catholic schools ranked 753 in state and below who will also get a CIF Division championship.

    If someone can explain this as anything other than what it clearly is on its face, I’d appreciate it. If CIF gives 3 divisions for very weak Catholic/Christian teams–it seems there should be separate top divisions for all the Catholic Basketball (recruitment based) powerhouses rather than putting them in with public schools to steal all of those school’s chances. The CIF with these division breakdowns appears to be either a blantant attempt to make Catholic/private recruitment schools look much better than they are or to make Public schools look much worse. In truth, this is basketball gerrymandering.

  3. lbkeoni
    Posted February 22, 2013 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Down here in the Southern Section everything is based upon enrollment. However, CIF came up with their power profile which takes a schools previous playoff success. If a team has won a playoff game over the past 4 years then they remain in their division. If a team has not won a playoff game in 4 years then they get dropped one half of a division. For example, Division 1AA down to Division 1A. The more success that a team has the higher they move up in the divisions. If a team has won a CIF championship like Mater Dei has for the past 4 years then they get moved from Division 3AAA up to Division 1AA. Bishop Amat has a score of 8.4 which moves them up 5 divisions from Division 3A to Division 1A. Schools with enrollment numbers 1251 and higher and are successful can move up from Division 3A all the way up to Division 1AA. Any school with enrollment 1250 or lower can move from Division 6 all the way up to Division 4AA. I pretty much have all of the numbers broken down for next year just waiting on who makes it to the finals. Some intriguing things are shaping up for next year.
    Everything I have talked about is on the CIF-SS website, the enrollment divisions and how many points a school has accumulated over the past four years along with an explanation of the point system.

    • T. S.
      Posted February 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

      Ibkeoni, What you write is interesting and would be nice if true. But Arcadia High school went to playoffs for the first time in 10-11 immediately to 1AA with a record of 14-12. Four years previous to that they had records of 9-16, 10-14, 4-21, 6-19 and did not make playoffs at all. I don’t see how what you say above could possibly be true in that case.

      And furthermore, because of the fact that these schools are stacked with a powerhouse Catholic recruitment high school at the top of divisions, it means those schools will likely win their divisions. For instance, Laguna Hills beat Alemany 2x last year–in the CIF SS Div 3AA final and in the State Div 3 Semi-Final. Laguna got moved up to AAA this year, but Alemany stayed in AA. Now Laguna is winning the AAA division over schools like Pasadena, which has 2200 students and a 6-18 record (ranked 567th CA, 7th of 8 in their league–2 teams above them didn’t even make playoffs) and has no business in playoffs at all. 2 years ago they made playoffs for the first time and lost the first round in 3AA. Now they are in 3AAA? Meanwhile, Alemany is blowing through the 3AA division, which is stacked with much, much weaker teams. So is 3AAA. Agora got moved up to 3AAA this year after losing the 2nd game of 3AA last year. Agora moves up but the finalist team, Alemany, didn’t move up to AAA? Meanwhile, Bishop O’Dowd, which beat Laguna Hills in the Div 3 State Championship last year, stays Div 3–even though you say they shouldn’t be able to be above Div 4 (I know they are Northern, but still, why the exception for the north? Maybe b/c Div 4 is full of Catholic schools already? And if O’Dowd weren’t in 3, Laguna would have won the state?)

      If what you wrote is supposed to be true, it certainly isn’t being applied in any of the cases I’ve stated above. If you have an explanation, I’d love to hear it. I’m sure if I take the time, I will find dozens of examples of the same thing I found above. These just popped out. Real research will likely reveal far more evidence against what you write. I hope people are talking about this because this feels like a serious fix is in.

  4. T. S.
    Posted February 22, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    *PS–to clarify, O’Dowd shouldn’t be above Div 4 because it has a student enrollment of only 1130 students–below your stated 1250 requirement to move above Div 4.

    • JAG3588
      Posted February 23, 2013 at 8:15 am | Permalink

      My opinion is CIF should do away with all these divisions for all sports except for football. (physically impossible to have a massive playoff system).

      Have one true state champion – period. Forget all the feel good “everybody gets a trophy” little league mentality. Not only would the final round of games be much more exciting, but upsets would without a doubt create some much more meaningful victories.

      Bottom line is enrollment is just an excuse and an inferior way of trying to maximize competitive contests. How about give credit where credit is due. Coaching and hard work will always produce winners. Sure you need the athletes to be champions. But the Jason Kidds and LeBron James of the world are far and few between. And when they arrive, its what movies are made of. (See Hoosiers and The Rookie).

      In closing, stop all the whining and realize the world is unfair and competitive. Hire a coach, start putting in the work and let the chips fall where they may. And if every year Mater Dei faces Bishop O’Dowd in the state finals, then so be it. The best teams deserve to be champion. (“Teams” refers to entire package – coaches, athletes, work ethic, summer safrifice, strength of schedule and whatever else happens to be mixed in aside from an arbitrary factor such as enrollment.)

  5. T B
    Posted February 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    At least you don’t have to deal with the CIF Central Section. Can someone explain how Hanford is ranked #1 in the section overall and #1 in division 1 in Maxpreps and Freeman rankings and the best seed they can get is a 3 seed. They are 114-1 over the last 6 years against section teams and they get no respect. Last year they were the #2 seed and had a 94 game winning streak against section teams and all they did was beat the #1 seed by 16 in the championship. No one from the CIF CS will explain what they use to determine the seedings even though websites like Cal Hi ranks them #9 in Division 1. And they wonder why the Southern Section never takes our teams serious come playoff time. Hanford’s enrollment is right around 1600 and they have gone from Div 3 to Div 1 over the last 6 years but that is another issue all together.

    • Posted February 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

      My best guess is that Ridgeview has a win over Hanford and Stockdale has a win over Ridgeview. Even though Ridgeview isn’t in D1 in the Central Section, that’s the only line of argument to not rank Hanford higher. Overall, it’s pretty easy to see that Hanford has played a very good schedule. Their win over Sacramento back in January to us put them back into the D1 state rankings.

  6. lbkeoni
    Posted February 28, 2013 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    This is what I have in regards to Arcadia for the 2012-2013 season: ARCADIA 3671 0 0 1 0 0.3; Arcadia has an enrollment of 3,671 students. In 2008-09 no playoffs win=0, in 2009-10 no playoff win=0, 2010-11 made it to the 2nd round thus earning 1 x 0.3, 2011-12 no playoff win =0. Any team with a point total of 0.1 -5.7 remains in their original enrollment division. The reason Laguna Hills got moved up is because they had point total of 6 which means any team that has a point total between 5.8 -6.4 moves up one division. So for Laguna Hills they move up from their original enrollment division of Division 3AA to Division 3AAA. CIF over the four years does this to weigh the totals. For the 1st year (2008-09) the point total is multiplied by 0.1. For example a team makes it to the 2nd round then they get 1 point multiply that by 0.1 equals 0.1. Second through the fourth year is weighed by 0.3. So if a team let’s say makes it to the quarterfinals for those years they earn 3 points. 3 x0.3 equals 0.9. Now if you add up 0.1+0.9+0.9+0.9=2.8 thus no movement. CIF gives 1 point for a 1st round win, 3 points for a 2nd round win, 6 points for a quarterfinal win, 10 points for division runner-up and 15 points for a divisional championship. Laguna Hills has a point total for 2008-09 of 3 (3×0.1=0.3). For 2009-10 season Laguna Hills’ point total was 3 (3×0.3=0.9). For the 2010-11 season Laguna Hills point total was 1 (1×0.3=0.3). For the 2011-12 season Laguna Hills has a point total of 15 (15×0.3=4.5). Now if you add up 0.3+0.9+0.1+4.5=6 thus movement up one division. As for Alemany they have a point total of 5.1 which means they remain down in their original enrollment division of Division 3AA. Alemany’s point totals over the past 4 years are 3 (3×0.1=0.3), 3 (3×0.3=0.9), 3 (3×0.3=0.9) and 10 (10×0.3=3). If you add up 0.3+0.9+0.9+3=5.1. Everything is based upon each school’s enrollment and their point totals from the previous four years. CIF will move the enrollment requirements to make sure that each division has between 40-49 teams. Last year Division 1AA only had 35 teams so CIF had to drop the enrollment numbers to allow for Division 1AA to meet the minimum number of 40 teams. Some teams got bumped up from Division 1A to Division 1AA just solely based upon their enrollment. It is a confusing system but if you can figure it out it’s not too complicated. I have 2013-2014 numbers almost figured out, just waiting on what happens at the finals. I will say this that if Alemany wins their division, they will move up to Division 1AA. Alemany 4 year totals if they win are 0.3+0.9+3+4.5=8.7 moving them up 5 divisions from their original enrollment division of Division 3AA. If Alemany loses then this will their total 0.3+0.9+3+3=7.2 moving Alemany up 3 divisions up to Division 2AA from Division 3AA. I hope this helps. Like I said, all of this information is on the CIF-SS website.

    • T. S.
      Posted March 1, 2013 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

      Ibkeoni,

      Wow. Once again, the calculus is impressive. But here’s what I see: CIF has developed a massive mathematical formula, weighing certain game elements and enrollment figures, in order to fix certain schools to win championships. I love how all that Alemany did in the previous years does nothing for this year, but if they win this year they jump 5 divisions. Last year, they played in the Div 3 Final and Div 3 State Quarterfinal for Godsake–how much further can they go?(both losses to Laguna Hills by the way…mmmm.) But this year they most surely will win since that’s how its set up and b/c there is ABSOLUTELY NO COMPETITION IN THEIR DIVISION. For God’s sake they are playing Calabasas in the Division Final–Calabasas lost 5 games in their own league–how do they get to a Division final? Have no competition, that’s how. Newbury Park, though, which was undefeated in Calabasas’s league only has 200 more students than Calabasas, but they went out in the second round because they were playing in Div 1A. Laguna Hills on the other hand, had to go against Gahr in the semis, where they lost. And Gahr now faces… wait for it… AGOURA in the championships. AGOURA? That’s the team in the same league as Calabasas that lost 6 LEAGUE GAMES! All the teams that whooped Agoura and Calabasas are out (even though they have the same enrollment), but Agoura and Calabasas are playing in Division Championships. Why? They are straw men.

      DIV 3AAA appears to exists solely for the purpose of allowing Alemany to win a division 3AA title. Gahr, Laguna, Calabasas, Agoura and Alemany should all be in the same division. Or really Alemany should be in Div 4AA with other schools of it’s same size, where they would get crushed. Instead the Div 3 slots are filled with weak teams. Div 2A is another joke division along with all the Parochial divisions: Div 4A and everything below – 5A, 6, 5AA (where Village Christian just beat Providence in the semis and is now playing for a Division championship–Village Christian is 4-5 in their own league. Talk about Little League rules. Providence couldn’t beat our rec league team of Junior highers–I wish I was joking–I watched Village Christian get beat by Burbank High by 80 points on 2 different days. Why do these teams need championships? What is really going on here?)

      BTW, we see now what happens when you stop Mater Dei from their ridiculous home court advantage all the way through every div playoff and state playoff game (as they had last year). Etiwanda just took them out. I guarantee you this, though, Etiwanda likely crushed Mater Dei, but the reffing kept MD in it. The refs in the CIF are another topic, but they really go out of their way to make sure certain teams maintain their ranking. We’ll see what happens between Amat and Canyon Springs, but based on watching both teams play this year, CS should kill Amat.

      I don’t know what goes on in other parts of the state, but there is something very fishy going on in the Southern Section to give certain schools division championship plaques that do not deserve them at all. It is unfair to the students. All of these girls work hard in summer, pre-season and season. It makes no sense for a team to be able to brag of a division championship that would get their tails handed to them if the playing field was level. If CIF is going to setup Peewee divisions, then they should call them Peewee divisions. As it is, it is a intentionally confusing mess.

      My final argument: Windward is now the #1 team in CA and #2 team in the nation and they just won the Div 4AA championship. Meanwhile Village Christian is #542 in CA and #8410 in the nation and they are playing for the Div 5AA championship. THAT IS BULLCRAP, CIF! I’m sorry, but those mathematical formulas do not explain this away. There is no justification for the way these things are weighted. NONE.

      TS

  7. T. S.
    Posted March 5, 2013 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Oh, look. Alemany won Div 3AA over Calabasas. What a surprise! Beat them by 30 points. Yikes. I guess that’s what CIF calls a fair division with properly weighted teams.

    Now we have Etiwanda–the team that took out Mater Dei in the Div 1AA SS Playoffs–playing in the Div 1 State playoffs and Mater Dei safely away from them in the Open Division (higher bracket) State Playoffs. That’s nice.

    And somehow Laguna Hills, which was in the Semi-Final Div 3AAA playoff v. Gahr (same side of the draw as opposed to opp) doesn’t get to go to State? But Agoura (opposite draw) does? Oh, well.

    I guess CIF stands for “Catholici Invictus Finales” –at least that’s what these formulas guarantee. I don’t know who’s making money off it, but it’s definitely corrupt. Maybe whoever is behind this should take a lesson from the Pope and step down.

  8. Posted May 24, 2014 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    I really like reading through a post that will make people think.
    Also, thanks for allowing for me to comment!

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